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INTERVIEW: Kat & Kat: “I’d like to think I can make someone laugh and give them a boner at the same time”

Katerina Robinson and Kat Ronson are making waves in the sea of UK comedy. They have just recently released their first major work together – Lads, a six-episode mockumentary following the daily mundanities of two 17-year-olds from East London, written by, directed by and starring the girls during lockdown – and rehearsals have begun for their next big comedy venture. Capers Magazine tasked Adrian Swall to find out more about this exciting duo…

Katerina Robinson (Left) & Kat Ronson (Right)

For a kick-off, give us your best joke. 

Katerina: At Christmas a guy said to me he wouldn’t mind coming down my chimney, I said why come down my chimney when my back doors are always open! 

Kat: Can’t give my best I’m afraid, you’ll have to come see me live. But you can have this: My boyfriend calls me his koala bear. Because I’m cute, I sleep a lot…and I’ve got chlamydia! The joke was me having a boyfriend, that would never happen! 

What British Comedy shows or acts are making you laugh at the moment? 

Katerina: I absolutely love Fleabag, Peep Show, I really like how they’re both filmed and the humour is right up my street! I’m also loving a lot of American sitcoms Schitt’s Creek and Superstore have been my go to binge shows over lockdown. 

Kat: I love trailer park boys, always sunny in Philadelphia. They were major inspirations for Lads – just being in obscene situations that don’t really go anywhere. I like silliness and things not being too deep. I think the world could do with lightening up! 

As standups I bet you’re gagging to get back out there and start gigging again aint ya? 

Katerina: 100 percent! It definitely beats gigging on zoom, although I have made quite a few contacts off the back of online gigs with people I’d probably never have met, so it’s had some perks.  

Kat: Yes! Canny wait. The too many drinks I have before my set, the anxiety shits, the whole thing. 

What do you think live gigs will be like once this dickish lockdown is over? Seeing as everyone’s too scared to breath in public now… 

Katerina: To be honest I don’t think much will have changed, I think everyone will just be so hyped to be socialising and performing again. Perhaps maybe a dettol spray on the mic in-between acts? 

Kat: If I’m there, it’ll be a good time love! 

I think the best comedy is the stuff that causes an emotional reaction of some kind – laughter, anger, embarrassment, shock, offence – what reaction does your comedy cause? 

Katerina: I think shock, maybe pity as I’ve been on so many disastrous dates, maybe turned on? I’d like to think I can make someone laugh and give them a boner at the same time. 

Kat: I agree hun! I would hope all of them. But probably shock and offence mainly. I don’t really know why but apparently I’m very triggering. 

There’s been a shit load of brilliant comedy double acts over the years in Britain (as well a load of shitters) – who’s your favourite? 

Katerina: Noel Fielding and Julian Barratt (Mighty Boosh) I love, just really fun and wacky! Also not really a duo, more a trio but I used to be obsessed with Smack the Pony. Their sketches would crack me up, so much innuendo and really smart, sexy humour.   

Kat: Well I think Harry Enfield & Kathy Burke as Kevin & Perry I have to say, because Kathy is a huge inspiration to me. And we’ve been called the modern day Kevin & Perry which I like to mention at any opportunity. She doesn’t give a fuck she’s a woman, she proved herself in dividends and she made me think I could do it too. 

Lads is available at Vimeo on Demand. Go to www.vimeo.com/ondemand/lads

I was watching your ‘Lads’ sketches the other day on the old instagrams – very funny stuff. What are the origins of that idea? 

Katerina: So glad you like it! Me and Kat were just bored in lockdown and we wanted to create something a little different, not too girly. After a string of voice notes back and fourth on Whatsapp we came up with Lads. A lot of “Lads” originates from experiences we’ve had with guys, guys we know and just observations we made. 

Kat: Well thanks mate. I think they’re all routed in experiences we’ve had. Kat and I actually had a photo shoot and we ended up hanging out with a group of boys – kat went home and I was the only girl. These boys were arguing about Instagram posts and loyalty and all sorts. It was comedy gold, I was watching thinking – and women are the ones that are crazy? 

You have a standup show called ‘The Whoring Twenties’, which sounds like a historical documentary made by Pornhub – what’s that one all about then? 

Katerina: I love that line, can we use that in the programme? Haha! So it’s a stand-up sketch show about our experiences in our twenties, we want to make it really fun, raucous, very post prohibition era and just the perfect lockdown show for everyone to enjoy and get tipsy! 

Kat: Well, it’s the twenties now. We’re in our twenties. And it sounded fun. And we get called whores a lot by salty men on the internet! So it just works. 

Sex seems to be something you talk about a lot in your comedy – what’s so interesting about it? 

Katerina: I actually was a bit of a late bloomer and quite shy in life, it wasn’t until I started having sex and dating where I found this new lease of confidence. I used to always voice-note my friends after dates and make silly dick jokes then one of my friends said oh my god you have to write a book or perform this. Fast forward a few years I now carry an aubergine mug to gigs and make sketches on my dickpression, it’s funny how life changes! 

Kat: With sex, there’s so much that can go wrong. There’s so many ways it can be awkward and cringe. If I didn’t have so many bad experiences then I wouldn’t have the material. Don’t blame me, blame the terrible dick I’ve had! 

“I like silliness and things not being too deep. I think the world could do with lightening up.”

What do you think the connection between sex and comedy is? 

Katerina: I like my comedy to be relatable and I think as a young, single woman sex is relatable and can be funny. It’s just about bridging that gap and making it more socially acceptable to speak openly about sex in a humorous way. 

Kat: I think the comedic connection is always things that are honest. Sex is relatable, we all do it. I think people sometimes hate on us for talking about sex in our sets cause they don’t get any. 

The new wave of British comedians go proper mental for identity politics – do you feel any pressure to represent any given identity group? Or are you just comedians doing the comedy that comes naturally to you?  

Katerina: I think what I love about me and Kat is we’re making comedy that we genuinely find funny, we’re not trying to fit into a certain mold or make a political statement. We’re just representing ourselves and having fun with it.   

Kat: I represent my truth. I don’t feel pressure to represent anyone. As a working class person who also had a vagina and comes from the north of England, I’ve already had quite a lot of hardship. I represent me and that seems to click with a lot of people. You have to do you, if you’re looking for approval from others it’s gonna be a disaster. 

If you knew what you know now, what advice would you give yourself when you first decided to become a comedian? 

Katerina: To just not give a fuck what people think, you will not be everyone’s cup of tea and every comedian’s journey is different. 

Kat: That most people who talk shit on you are jealous or you remind them of what they are not. Don’t listen to them. 

Last up, what is on the horizon for Kat & Kat? 

Katerina: We have Whoreing Twenties showing at Museum of Comedy on 26-27th August and some other dates in the pipeline! We’d obviously love a season two of Lads and of course worldwide success, BAFTAS, dream big honey! 

Kat: Whoreing twenties in August! I want a season 2 of Lads too. Also the lads theme song is out on all music platforms. It’s a northern rap song me and my flat mate made in our house, we have some other tunes coming out this year too. 

LADS – a hilarious 6-part mockumentary series based on British male stereotypes – is available at Vimeo on Demand. Go to www.vimeo.com/ondemand/lads for the full series which can be streamed from your Apple TV, iOS, Android, Amazon Fire TV, Chromecast.

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